{"id":1860,"date":"2009-05-20T23:07:21","date_gmt":"2009-05-21T03:07:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/2009\/05\/20\/discrimination\/"},"modified":"2009-05-20T23:07:21","modified_gmt":"2009-05-21T03:07:21","slug":"discrimination","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/2009\/05\/20\/discrimination\/","title":{"rendered":"Discrimination"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the tricky issues in terms of political correctness has been discrimination and when things aren&#8217;t discrimination. There was a student group called &#8220;Black United Body&#8221; at my college, definitely not racist. But if someone had started its logical complement, &#8220;Whites United,&#8221; it would have seemed horrifyingly racist.<\/p>\n<p>After a bit of banter, I came to the conclusion that &#8220;discrimination&#8221; in its non-loaded definition (grouping people into buckets, with no hint of prejudice or value judgment) is generally considered okay when it&#8217;s &#8220;pro-something&#8221; (e.g., a &#8220;pro-African-American&#8221; group), and generally not okay when it&#8217;s anti-something (e.g., anti-gay). <\/p>\n<p>A bit of a wrinkle is that a &#8220;pro-something&#8221; when that something has a sizable majority or innate perceived advantage can be construed as anti-something-else: a group to celebrate the culture of white people is not offensive in and of itself, but it seems to conspicuously exclude an oft-belittled minority, so pro-white comes across as anti-black, whereas a pro-black group may not have anti-white sentiments. I think this is kind of like how the SEC has rules that only kick in when you control an overwhelming majority of your industry: Alcoa and Microsoft have run into trouble, whereas if I forced you to buy a brownie if you wanted lemonade at my lemonade stand, the law isn&#8217;t applicable. Microsoft bundling IE was consdered to unfairly shut out Netscape, but me forcing brownies with lemonade doesn&#8217;t really shut anyone out, since no one would come to my lemonade stand anyway. Thus Caucasians, heterosexuals, and males have some &#8220;near-monopoly&#8221; special rules, and &#8220;monopoly&#8221; isn&#8217;t always clear. (Men and women are equal in percentage, yet a movement for women&#8217;s rights is a good cause, while a movement for men&#8217;s rights is nonsensical.)<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s say I start a company with some legitimate reason to consider religion. Let&#8217;s call it a Muslim dating site. All&#8217;s well and good. After a while, we say that only Muslims can sign up on our site for Muslims. Fair and not discriminatory, even if you say it as &#8220;all non-Muslims are banned.&#8221; It&#8217;s pro-Muslim, not anti-non-Muslim. But now say that the Muslim site decides to welcome their Christian and Hindu brethren, and just changes the rule to &#8220;No Jews allowed.&#8221; Suddenly, it&#8217;s shockingly offensive, because it&#8217;s gone from pro-Muslim to anti-Judaism.<\/p>\n<p>A gay dating site makes sense, but a whites-only dating site would not. A lesbian-only site that precluded gay men and heterosexuals is okay, because you&#8217;re not anti-gay-male, but pro-lesbian. Pro-British is okay, because it leaves non-British, a giant category, whereas pro-white excludes only racial minorities. It&#8217;s about ensuring that the only group not included in your &#8220;pro-something&#8221; doesn&#8217;t happen to be a minority. Pro-female is okay, but pro-male may get into murky waters&#8230; In some cases, at least. A clothing store for men isn&#8217;t anti-female, but a male-only supermarket is suspect, since it appears to arbitrarily exclude females. (Plus it makes no sense, but you get the idea.)<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m curious if this theory holds up. Some things around this sort of topic are controversial (consider gay rights or affirmative action), but I think there&#8217;s a lot of &#8220;I&#8217;ll know it when I see it,&#8221; so I like the idea of reducing it to two rules of thumb that seem to cover most situations. But does it work?<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the tricky issues in terms of political correctness has been discrimination and when things aren&#8217;t discrimination. There was a student group called &#8220;Black United Body&#8221; at my college, definitely not racist. But if someone had started its logical &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/2009\/05\/20\/discrimination\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1860","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1860","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1860"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1860\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1860"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1860"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.n1zyy.com\/n1zyy\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1860"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}